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	<title>Comments on: Own a funny tshirt? Please leave our country.</title>
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		<title>By: Michi</title>
		<link>http://blog.mikael.johanssons.org/archive/2007/06/own-a-funny-tshirt-please-leave-our-country/comment-page-1/#comment-16298</link>
		<dc:creator>Michi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harald: One of the backgrounds for that particular quote, though, was my impressions from the discussions after the extended riots in Göteborg, Sweden at some summit or other several years back. That &#8220;ended&#8221; with the police opening fire, wounding one of the rioters, an action that has been discussed at insane lengths in the swedish public debate.</p>
<p>And in this debate, it has been repeated over and over and over and over by elements on the not-even-very-far left that the police was almost completely in the wrong in their actions, and should preferably had kept out of a city that was quickly laid waste to by the pugnacious among the protesters since their tries to keep some sort of peace obviously provoked people to start violence.</p>
<p>Not one word was uttered from this side of the debate as to whether there is an internal hypocrisy in the argument that personal safety is expected simultaneous with the perceived right to form road blocks hindering police from doing anything at all against the stone throwing, car burning, shop thrashing minority that transform the protests into riots <b>Every Single Time</b>.</p>
<p>I do recognize that these are not the same kind of left as the vast majority. But they hoist a similar flag, and I do not like the continually spouted &#8220;We have no responsibility for them&#8221;-line that meets any critique of the behaviour of the large mass of every single riotous globalization protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Harald Korneliussen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harald Korneliussen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This setup would have me ranting on and on about the violent left and failure to admonish extremists on your own side.&quot;

Glad you didn&#039;t. One thing you need to understand about the fringe left is that it isn&#039;t necessarily &quot;left&quot;, but a different branch in its own right. If you come out to organisations like IS, they live by the old communist proverb that anything that aids the revolution is moral, and anything that delays it is immoral. Now various extremist groups may not have an actual revolution as their revolution, but they share the mindset. If a mass movement can&#039;t be subverted to exactly _their_ aims, then they&#039;d rather see it fail, no matter how &quot;left&quot; it is.

These people are simply not susceptible to &quot;admonishments&quot;. Staying at home, however, would be playing into their hands, so I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good idea. If that gives ammunition to lazy rightists wielding the tar bucket, so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This setup would have me ranting on and on about the violent left and failure to admonish extremists on your own side.&#8221;</p>
<p>Glad you didn&#8217;t. One thing you need to understand about the fringe left is that it isn&#8217;t necessarily &#8220;left&#8221;, but a different branch in its own right. If you come out to organisations like IS, they live by the old communist proverb that anything that aids the revolution is moral, and anything that delays it is immoral. Now various extremist groups may not have an actual revolution as their revolution, but they share the mindset. If a mass movement can&#8217;t be subverted to exactly _their_ aims, then they&#8217;d rather see it fail, no matter how &#8220;left&#8221; it is.</p>
<p>These people are simply not susceptible to &#8220;admonishments&#8221;. Staying at home, however, would be playing into their hands, so I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a good idea. If that gives ammunition to lazy rightists wielding the tar bucket, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: John Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A colleague of mine (I won&#039;t out her publicly) was stopped and searched multiple times at one US airport while traveling home for a holiday break during her graduate school years.  The suspicion-raiser?  She had a book on quantum mechanics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colleague of mine (I won&#8217;t out her publicly) was stopped and searched multiple times at one US airport while traveling home for a holiday break during her graduate school years.  The suspicion-raiser?  She had a book on quantum mechanics.</p>
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