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	<title>Comments on: 1-manifolds and curves</title>
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		<title>By: Michi</title>
		<link>http://blog.mikael.johanssons.org/archive/2009/05/1-manifolds-and-curves/comment-page-1/#comment-164529</link>
		<dc:creator>Michi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 10:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, but I don&#039;t see the difficulty in the gluing. Taking the first link you gave, the proof of that classification theorem starts with pointing out that a 1-manifold if homeomorphic to a graph with each vertex of degree 2. By connectivity, this graph is actually path-connected, and so we can modify any countable basis we pick for the manifold into a basis with each open set covering two adjacent edges of the graph, excluding the furthermost endpoints. These, in turn, are easily glued together.

A more interesting trouble point is the long line - gluing together intervals indexed by infinite ordinals - but that vanishes due to the second countability of manifolds. 

All this said, this is all on the geometric side of what I&#039;m doing, and I do not consider myself an expert in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but I don&#8217;t see the difficulty in the gluing. Taking the first link you gave, the proof of that classification theorem starts with pointing out that a 1-manifold if homeomorphic to a graph with each vertex of degree 2. By connectivity, this graph is actually path-connected, and so we can modify any countable basis we pick for the manifold into a basis with each open set covering two adjacent edges of the graph, excluding the furthermost endpoints. These, in turn, are easily glued together.</p>
<p>A more interesting trouble point is the long line &#8211; gluing together intervals indexed by infinite ordinals &#8211; but that vanishes due to the second countability of manifolds. </p>
<p>All this said, this is all on the geometric side of what I&#8217;m doing, and I do not consider myself an expert in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodolfo Medina</title>
		<link>http://blog.mikael.johanssons.org/archive/2009/05/1-manifolds-and-curves/comment-page-1/#comment-164528</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodolfo Medina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 09:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallo, and thanks indeed for taking care of the problem.

It&#039;s just in glueing together those pieces the difficulty of the problem.

We have demonstrations in Christenson and Voxman, `Aspects of
Topology&#039; and in John M. Lee&#039;s `Introduction to Topological Manifolds&#039;,
see

 http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA115&amp;lpg=PA91&amp;id=wyuzE2lSPAgC#PPA118,M1

.  In John Milnor&#039;s `Topology from the Differentiable Viewpoint&#039; we
have the demonstration in the general case (i.e. for 1-manifolds with
boundary), but in a much too synthetic way, and here:

 www.math.ist.utl.pt/~ggranja/TD/08/classif1manifs.pdf

we have Milnor&#039;s result demonstrated more in details.  This latter seems to me
the most exhaustive treatment of the subject.

Bye
Rodolfo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo, and thanks indeed for taking care of the problem.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just in glueing together those pieces the difficulty of the problem.</p>
<p>We have demonstrations in Christenson and Voxman, `Aspects of<br />
Topology&#8217; and in John M. Lee&#8217;s `Introduction to Topological Manifolds&#8217;,<br />
see</p>
<p> <a href="http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA115&#038;lpg=PA91&#038;id=wyuzE2lSPAgC#PPA118,M1" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA115&#038;lpg=PA91&#038;id=wyuzE2lSPAgC#PPA118,M1</a></p>
<p>.  In John Milnor&#8217;s `Topology from the Differentiable Viewpoint&#8217; we<br />
have the demonstration in the general case (i.e. for 1-manifolds with<br />
boundary), but in a much too synthetic way, and here:</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~ggranja/TD/08/classif1manifs.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.math.ist.utl.pt/~ggranja/TD/08/classif1manifs.pdf</a></p>
<p>we have Milnor&#8217;s result demonstrated more in details.  This latter seems to me<br />
the most exhaustive treatment of the subject.</p>
<p>Bye<br />
Rodolfo</p>
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